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★★★★★ 5
Fascinating, enlightening, troubling
Format: Paperback
55 pages into the book: So far the author (Schoch) has done a very good job of conveying background information on the statues of Easter Island (along with their mysterious Rongorongo script), the dating of the Great Sphinx (in Egypt) to a time millennia before the usually given orthodox figure of 2650 B.C.E., and on the significance of the findings at Gobekli Tepe, which have been dated to 10,000 B.C.E to about 8,000 B.C.E. But the author's style of including anecdotes from his personal and professional life, which do have bearing on the subject matter, provides for a more enriching reading experience. He points out the humanity of scientists, which we and they often need to keep in mind when considering their pronouncements.
And while the book is very well written, and the author is extremely competent in his field (Geology), one or two technical misstatements may be found in these pages. What caught my attention was the statement that by facing due East, the Great Sphinx was also facing the Vernal Equinox. The sentence was unqualified, giving readers the impression that the Vernal Equinox is always, at all times, due East. It is not. Rather, the V.E. (the point on the Ecliptic where the Sun's yearly progress transitions from the southern celestial hemisphere, to the northern) rises and sets every day, just like every other point on the celestial equator, as seen from Earth.
But this is a fairly minor annoyance which does not diminish the overall thesis in the least. And it is a pleasure to read from a scientist who dares to follow the evidence where it leads, instead of where orthodoxy, the status quo, and politicians would rather it go. In Forgotten Civilization, Schoch is tying together a number of disparate subjects which have fascinated me for the past forty years - ancient civilization and technology, astronomical catastrophies, the environmental history of the earth and its impact on the evolution of human beings.
Much of my fascination with ancient enigmas began with Chariots of the Gods by Erich von Daniken, but Schoch is approaching the same set of mysteries armed with the tools of legitimate science, and not reaching for outlandish theories when the evidence does not demand he do so. In writing as a traditionally trained scientist, following the path of reason and insight, I feel greater confidence that the material presented is trustworthy, and will not be a waste of time or effort as I continue reading this excellent volume.
Addendum (2013/04/12) - Finished reading the book, and am left both excited, energized and very concerned.
The main thesis of the book is that one or more major solar outbursts (Coronal Mass Ejection [CME] and/or Solar Proton Events [SPE]) impacted the Earth about 12,000 years ago (c. 9700 BCE) effectively bringing the last true ice age - the Younger Dryas - to an end. As fascinating, and explanatory as this assertion is, the author suggests that we are entering a time of similar solar behavior, implying that we, too, may be the recipients of our own solar outburst, resulting in the end of civilization as we know it.
Schoch (the author) backs up his hypothesis with a fair amount of evidence provided along somewhat tenuous lines of evidence, which added together build a fairly strong case. The most direct evidence are the isotope levels of Beryllium-10 contained in the Greenland ice core samples dating back to that time, which suggest a sudden influx of cosmic rays associated with a major solar event.
Other evidence cited includes the vitrified ("melted into glass") rocks and castles found around the world. And while I'm not used to thinking of castles dating back to the last ice age, it is often suggested by archeologists that succeeding ancient cultures often reused existing sites left behind by preceding cultures. However, there are ancient Indian / Sanskrit accounts of flying houses armed with apparently nuclear missiles, which seemed to have occurred thousands of years before the current thread of civilization begins.
Additionally, Schoch has a tendency to see solar outburst evidence in some very ambiguous situations. Intrigued by the Rongorongo script on Easter Island, the good Doctor's wife suggested the character forms were similar to petroglyphs shown in the video "Symbols of an Alien Sky". To be fair, one classic figure, known as the Squatter Man, does bear an astonishing similarity to one of the Z-Pinch instabilities described by plasma physicist, Anthony L. Peratt. Indeed Peratt himself had noticed that many petroglyphs found around the world looked very much like what one might see if a huge plasma discharge from the Sun impacted our atmosphere.
The upshot of all of this is that Schoch succeeds in proving his case. And he does so with a brilliant display of disparate data from an array of scientific fields and endeavors. The ambiguities which caused me some doubts seem to be the way that science actually advances. It seems that intuition and inspiration are the first step in recognizing a potential truth, however much dismissed by the orthodox scientific community. In one of five excellent appendix articles, Schoch explains the reality of orthodoxy and politics in the scientific establishment, and how inertia, intransigence, and censorship serve vested personal interests at the expense of truth and progress.
Given the wealth of ideas and information presented, and the nearly overabundant food for thought contained in this modest volume, it seems impossible to do full justice to Schoch's work, without a review nearly as long as the book itself. It is far easier to simply read for one's self, to get the fullest sense of what may be the ultimate history lesson.
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Reviewed in the United States on March 21, 2013
★★★★★ 4
Review of new and cutting edge perspective by a credible source
Unexpectedly chatty, like a fireside conversation, but Robert Bloch brings the same open mindedness and lack of fear of entrenched mainstream academics to the idea that maybe a massive Solar Flare caused and extinction of much of life about 12,000 yrs ago, that he brought to the updating of the age of the Sphinx. He does tend to jump about in order to incorporate several subjects, and the open mindedness does lead him to be willing to discuss some pretty hairy and unlikely theories, but to his credit his dismissal of the silliest of them is courteous and gentle; very unlike the usual ad hominem viciousness we see. Unfortunately, he doesn't bring the same degree of hard science to some of the ideas like, for example, his wifes' "G! theory". (Has anyone measured H2 atoms to see if they are floating off into space Robert?). However, he does one thing for me I always very much enjoy - he brings new information that informs and sends you running for text books in order to fully understand. His hard science knowledge of what constitutes solar and cosmic rays, their magnetic and electrical functions, is like a full on first year college course. (Incidentally bringing yet more hard science to blow away the stupid AGW theories of Algore and IPCC).
If you are into learning some hard facts to explain what might have happened 12,000 yrs ago and what helped to bring us to where we are now, it's an excellent full on read.
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Reviewed in the United States on June 12, 2014
★★★★★ 5
A Fascinating and Engaging Read
Format: Paperback
This book was published in 2012. When it first came on the market I was intrigued by the title “Forgotten Civilizations” and it was written by Dr. Robert F. Schoch, one of the authors that I revere as a brilliant scientist and intellectual with one of the most open minds to alternate explanations of mainstream scientific paradigms in the modern scientific community. But the remainder of the title, “The Role of Solar Outburst in Our Past and Future”, kind of turned me off, as I assumed this was just another December 21, 2012 doomsday book, and after reading scare books on the coming computer disaster of the millennium change from 1999 to 2000, and several books on the coming Armageddon in 2012, where in both cases nothing happened, I was burnt out on doomsday prognostications.
I couldn’t have been more wrong. This book is absolutely fascinating.
I think that Graham Hancock, Andrew Collins, Robert Schoch, and other researchers and authors have adequately explained the cause of the Younger Dryas ice age, that began in 10900 BCE, as being caused by a comet impacting the northern hemisphere of earth, but speculation of what caused the end of it, about 9700 BCE, always appeared to be a pretty weak arguments to me. Here I think Dr. Schoch has nailed a very likely cause, and he has the data to back it up, with clues left from Easter Island through western United States to the middle east of something catastrophic happening in the skies 11,700 years ago. Dr. Schoch typically follows the data no matter where it leads him, even if to controversial conclusions (i.e. the Great Sphinx is much older that the Egyptian civilization, possibly 10,000 to 12,000 years old).
In Chapters #7 and #8 Dr. Schoch provides a detailed history of the sun’s activity to as far back as records have been kept and as deep as ice cores and tree rings can provide empirical data. He documents the sun’s activity and the corresponding periods of abrupt and severe climate change that occurred during periods of high solar activity. Schoch points out that “our sun has been more active over the last few decade (since about the middle of the twentieth century) than it has been for thousands of years previously”. He goes on to say, “the current overall level of solar activity is the highest it has been since about 9500 BCE to 9000 BCE, near the end of the last ice age!” And, “the level of solar activity during the past 70 years is exceptional, and the previous period of equally high activity occurred more than 8,000 years ago”. Global warming? Ya think? And Schoch points out that throughout history periods of abrupt and severe climate change occur during periods of high solar activity.
In Chapter #8 Dr. Schoch discusses the science of “Cosmoclimatology”, the study if how the sun, planets, our solar system, and even events that happen in deep space and in other solar systems, can have an impact on earth. It sounds fishy but Dr. Schoch shows where “changes in greenhouse gases have been correlated with global temperature changes for hundreds of thousands – even millions – of years, long before humans could conceivably have been causing such changes. Indeed, increases in carbon dioxide may in part be a consequence of global warming rather than the cause (Ferreyra 2011). Increases in temperature due to other factors (such as increases in solar activity) may warm the oceans, for instance, resulting in the releases of carbon dioxide and the inability to absorb more carbon dioxide; once the carbon dioxide is in the atmosphere, it may further reinforce global warming.” I’m trading my Toyota Prius in on the biggest pollution belching SUV I can find.
Dr. Schoch points out that, Ilya G. Usoskin, “found that periods of higher solar activity and lower cosmic ray flux tend to be associated with warmer climate and vice versa”, and, “Il-Hyun Cho and colleagues have found additional evidence that solar activity can directly affect the weather and climate on earth.” Research shows that the earth experienced “hot house” conditions around 500, 375, 250, and 100 million years ago and “icehouse” conditions with periodic glaciations around 450, 300, and 150 million years ago. Dr. Schoch says, “According to the new paradigm of Cosmoclimatology (research shows) solar and galactic influences can have major effects on the climate of earth.”
Chapter #12 provides a detailed description of “The Carrington Event”, something I have never heard of before and found fascinating. The Carrington Event deserves a book on its own. Perhaps there is one or Dr. Schoch will write one. The Carrington Event occurred in 1859 when a solar outburst hit the earth like a tidal wave hitting an island, seriously disrupting electrical distributions and communication systems (telegraph) of the time. Dr. Schoch then goes into describing the impact of a similar or greater intensity solar outburst on today’s electrical distribution systems, communication systems, satellites, pipelines, railroads, etc. It’s happened before and if it would happen again today, it could spoil your whole afternoon.
In the last few chapters Dr. Schoch, investigates some new age alternate explanations that challenge the mainstream scientific paradigms in the scientific community. Things like extremely low frequency electromagnetic waves, sound waves, water memory, Zep Tepi, telepathy, levitation, etc. Some of this stuff, like Edgar Chase the “Sleeping Prophet”, I have trouble with, but who am I to debate Dr. Schoch? As I said earlier, Schoch is a scientist with an open mind who does not reject all theories deemed “pseudoscience” out of hand, but rather keeps an open mind, and considers all ideas.
There are five appendixes (26 pages) that should not be skipped, as they are all very interesting and contribute to the understanding of the book.
The only thing negative I can say about Dr. Schoch’s book is that, while Dr. Schoch has done rigorous research and has an extensive bibliography, he has listed his references in parentheses in the text rather than footnotes or numeric references to notes or the bibliography. That, along with Dr. Schoch’s liberal use of parentheses, to add additional information, I found broke my train of thought, and was annoying at first, and maddening by the time I got to the end of the book. Thus four and a half stars rounded to five, but four and a half stars certainly does not reflect the excellent quality and content of the information contained in this book.
If you’re into this stuff like I am I think you will like this book, but if you are a liberal, closed mind, man-made global warming zealot, you ain’t gonn’a exactly fall in love with this book, and you might want to pick up some of Al Gore’s scientific work.
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Reviewed in the United States on February 6, 2017
★★★★★ 5
Forgotten Civilization: An astounding book not easily forgotten
'Forgotten Civilization' is a paradigm-shattering book which won't be easily forgotten. Dr. Robert Schoch possesses a rare talent for writing and public speaking which is backed up by and informed with all the intellectual rigor of a true scientist, but easily comprehensible and accessible to the general public. His passion for the subject of ancient civilizations is inspiring, and his courage and dedication unquestionable.
For those of you interested in the mysteries surrounding ancient civilizations, 'Forgotten Civilization' is one of the best books ever written about the subject. Like most everyone else, I first heard about Dr. Robert Schoch when I saw the television show "The Mysterious Origins of Man," where he presented persuasive evidence of weathering and erosion on the Sphinx, showing that it must have been built during a much earlier time than what most Egyptologists believed.
Back then a lot of Egyptologists laughed and ridiculed the notion that the Sphinx could be any older than a couple of thousand years. Twenty years later, few of them are still laughing.
In 'Forgotten Civilization,' Dr. Robert Schoch turns his attention to the paradigm-busting site of Gobekli Tepe, a sophisticated megalithic complex unearthed in southeast Turkey, which dates back more than 10,000 years ago. Nobody knows who built it, but its age and existence irrefutably points to the presence of a highly sophisticated yet unknown culture who obviously possessed a great deal of technological knowledge and social organization at a time when most archeologists believed the human race was little more than nomadic cave men, capable of nothing more interesting than eking out a primitive, subsistence mode of survival through hunting and foraging. The discovery of Gobleki Tepe has turned the world of ancient civilizations and human history on its head, forcing what will eventually amount to a complete rewriting of human history.
'Forgotten Civilization' is a ground-breaking book which is vastly entertaining to read. Through the course of the book, which unravels like a globe-trotting mystery adventure-thriller, Schoch also reveals credible scientific evidence which shows how a previous high civilization could have been completely destroyed by massive solar outbursts and coronal mass ejections from the Sun, which would have scorched the surface of the planet and touched off natural disasters all over the world, plunging humanity back into a dark age which would take thousands of years to recover from. More chillingly, he shows how the Sun goes through natural cycles of activity over the course of thousands of years--and how history could repeat itself and this same fate could happen again, and destroy much of our modern civilization.
Dr. Robert Schoch's book 'Forgotten Civilization' is for anyone who has ever wondered about the origins of civilization, the questions it raises about both the past and the future will remain with you long after you read the last page.
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Reviewed in the United States on November 26, 2013
★★★★★ 5
Perhaps the most interesting book that I have ever read...
Format: Paperback
This book is perhaps the most fascinating piece of non-fiction that I have ever read. Dr. Schoch is a Yale educated professor at Boston University who presents information in a manner that is enjoyable and truly educational. If human history is a subject of interest for you, then you will recognize him immediately, as he has appeared on many television shows on the subject. When I bought his first book, I had the "oh, THAT guy" moment when I read the section about the author. He's the geologist/geophysicist who, back in the mid-1990's, studied the Sphinx enclosure and determined that it was condensation that smoothed the sides- rather than wind. This requires the dating of the construction of the Sphinx to draw back by many thousands of years due to the timeline of such rainfall. As such, he threw the discipline of human anthropology on it's ear. This met with much resistance from from anthropologists but, as he says, "I'm sorry if my findings contradict your theory but..."
This book flows VERY smoothly and, without giving spoilers about his extensive research, provides more of an epiphany than anything that I have ever read before. Even when reading it for the second time, the book is very hard to put down. Schoch is a true educator and has a genuine talent for presenting his findings. As an author, he is clear and concise. He builds a powerful and enthralling case, the explanation of which incorporates the solving of the mysteries of the Rongorongo glyphs on Easter Island, the ancient vitrified stone castles in Scotland and the dating of the Sphinx into a plausible, scientifically supported timeline that is nothing less than completely fascinating.
I have no question that my grandchildren will study human history that conforms to his research and discoveries. The irony is that he will be considered one of the "fathers of modern anthropology" for the next generation, and he's a GEOLOLOGIST! Get this book, you will NOT be disappointed!
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Reviewed in the United States on February 20, 2018
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